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The energetic heart is so underrated (Arnaud Saint-Paul)

A superpower in business and life that only a small number of people understand right now

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“And because the heart lives in a vibrational world, so it's made of patterns. It's like a melody that is playing itself out repetitively all the time until you start to realize that it's there.” (13:08 in this cast)

Arnaud Saint-Paul is an award-winning serial entrepreneur, philanthropist, and visionary who's helping some of the world's top CEOs and entrepreneurs tap into what he calls the Heart’s Intelligence.

In our conversation, Arnaud shares how making shifts in your inner world directly impacts your external results including business growth, financial prosperity, and improved relationships. Arnaud has even developed a way to measure this called the Heart Leadership Index.

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This episode is great for:

  • Entrepreneurs and business leaders who want a more holistic path to achieve results

  • Leaders interested in creating more innovative, vibrant company cultures

  • Professionals feeling stuck in repetitive patterns in their business or career

  • Heart-centered individuals seeking ways to integrate their values with business success

  • Leaders interested in measuring the ROI of consciousness and heart-centered approaches

  • Anyone fascinated by the application of quantum principles to leadership and business

Ideas that really stuck out to me:

  1. Our mind is like a binary computer, but our heart is like a quantum computer. The heart's electromagnetic field is 5,000 times stronger than the brain's, and it processes information in a non-linear manner. It is able to hold multiple states simultaneously like quantum physics describes. While the mind breaks everything into sequential binary code (zeros and ones), the heart perceives wholeness and operates beyond ordinary limitations.

  2. Reality responds instantaneously to vibrational shifts in your heart. The external world functions as an "eternal mirror" reflecting your inner state. When you transform a pattern within yourself your reality shifts automatically to match this new vibrational state. This is how the quantum nature of existence actually works.

  3. Life challenges appear as gifts for our growth. Arnaud shared powerful examples of leaders who after resolving inner patterns from their teenage years and experienced immediate business breakthroughs from million-dollar contracts to formal apologies from competitors.

  4. Heart leadership isn't just about feeling good. It delivers tangible results that can be measured. Using Arnaud's Heart Leadership Index, Arnaud has proven that embracing heart leadership experience accelerated growth, improved culture and gain a competitive edge in talent acquisition.

  5. The most pragmatic and practical people benefit most from heart-centered approaches. Contrary to what you might expect, the journey to the heart requires grounded individuals who can directly apply these principles in their daily life and business.

I've personally experienced this quantum mirror effect in my own personal and business journey. When I first encountered these concepts, I approached them skeptically as many heady entrepreneurs would. But after witnessing how resolving my inner patterns directly correlated with external shifts and breakthroughs, I could no longer deny the connection.

This invisible determinant explains why conventional efforts sometimes yield limited results once you get on a consciousness path. When you're operating from the binary mind, you're working with just a tiny fraction of your available processing power. Shifting to heart intelligence activates a exponential processing capacity that can create breakthrough shifts rather than incremental change.

I believe the future of business leadership will be less about forcing outcomes and more about achieving internal coherence that naturally magnetizes opportunities and solutions to you.

I hope you enjoy this conversation!

- Scott

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Episode Transcript

Show Notes

  • 00:00 - The Mind vs. The Heart: A Duality Explained

  • 06:07 - The Heart's Role in Leadership and Prosperity

  • 11:46 - Transformative Stories: Real-World Examples of Heart Leadership

  • 17:58 - The Journey to Heart-Centered Leadership

  • 23:59 - Seven Pillars of Heart Leadership

  • 29:58 - Practical Steps to Grounding and Presence

  • 35:58 - Envisioning a Heart-Based Economy

  • 41:49 - Measuring Coherence in Organizations